Any ideas on grain matching?

[napwszzm]

Hello team, 

 

I am wondering if someone has experiences on grain matching with Interiorcad? What do you normally do for grain matching to cabinet works? 

My way to do grain matching, in the begaining, was a bit "old school". I normally cut a big panel, and then rip them on table saw to do grain matching. It was labour consuming when handling a big kitchen.  And now I am drawing the drawers on 2D dxf ground and apply toolings on the layers. 

The pictures are found on interenet to show the grain matching idea. 

 

I am using Intericad DXF + xxCAM Automation to make cabinets, it works really well. 

 

However, the CAM Automation can only reads a single dxf part, not the whole group of drawer set dxf. 

 

Does someone experience this before, and what could be the solution(s)?

 

I am thinking if Interirocad has this sort of function to group the drawers into the same single dxf file? 

 

Thanks a lot. 

 

Nap

 

[Stephan Mönninghoff]

Hi Nap,

we are already doing grain matching for the rendering textures. We have yet to implement it for cutting lists. At the moment, the easiest way is to issue the cutting list and then do it manually. Not ideal, we know, but a lot of things to take into account and problems to solve for this to work as expected. We will deliver this as part of one of the upcoming updates (but not the next one).

[napwszzm]

vor 15 Stunden schrieb Stephan Mönninghoff:

Hi Nap,

we are already doing grain matching for the rendering textures. We have yet to implement it for cutting lists. At the moment, the easiest way is to issue the cutting list and then do it manually. Not ideal, we know, but a lot of things to take into account and problems to solve for this to work as expected. We will deliver this as part of one of the upcoming updates (but not the next one).

Hi Stephan, 

 

Thanks for your reply. 

Yeah, that's what I am doing for grain matching manually. 

It was a thought on Interiorcad function, and will be a bonus if it will work with DXF files for grain matching. 

I understand that it takes time to tweak the programe achieve that, but glad to hear you guys have already taken that into account. 

 

Thanks a lot.

Nap

[kingchaos]

Hi Nap,

 

in our company we are trying to use the charts for importing cutting lists with grain matching.

 

it depends on how u usually cut your plates and how this pieces are placed in your 3D.

 

If they are in X or Y direction, u can do the following:

 

If u use f.E. schelling FMH or S45 or similar(we use them) saw for sectioning the plates you can buy some tool (a few hundred euros).

 

Then you have to apply some information in a databsefield about "master piece" and "nesting group" and you can extract the starting x and y values referring to your master piece so you can nest them on the machine (make a 4.5 mm gap).

 

This x-Pos and y-Pos you can extract from the vwx-file f.E. with a chart. But now i see, left doors and right doors got different results, the xPOS of the left door is the left-edge x coordinate but drawers and right doors got the right edgecoordinate.

 

Problem, the left doors and right doors are not named so i cant programm a stringsearching srcipt wit hautomatically corrects the xStart value of all doors and drawers.

 

I tried to solve it with "xMid" but that result is not correct. I get xMID=100 and the door is 300 ... -> UPDATE now it works with Xmid.

 

 

br KC

Bearbeitet 4. Oktober 2021 von kingchaos

[kingchaos]

Hi,

 

 

update.

 

Because of VWX behaviour, that the insertion point of a "Part 3D" differs when u change the point of view in the 3d, this will be brainacrobatics.

 

It only works if u make a top view then u have to handle all the algebraic signs (+/-) you can read it out.

 

Next stuff, its complicated if u have more then 1 group of "parts with grain matching".

 

I hope VW will help soon

 

[napwszzm]

Am 10/4/2021 um 9:47 PM schrieb kingchaos:

Hi Nap,

 

in our company we are trying to use the charts for importing cutting lists with grain matching.

 

it depends on how u usually cut your plates and how this pieces are placed in your 3D.

 

If they are in X or Y direction, u can do the following:

 

If u use f.E. schelling FMH or S45 or similar(we use them) saw for sectioning the plates you can buy some tool (a few hundred euros).

 

Then you have to apply some information in a databsefield about "master piece" and "nesting group" and you can extract the starting x and y values referring to your master piece so you can nest them on the machine (make a 4.5 mm gap).

 

This x-Pos and y-Pos you can extract from the vwx-file f.E. with a chart. But now i see, left doors and right doors got different results, the xPOS of the left door is the left-edge x coordinate but drawers and right doors got the right edgecoordinate.

 

Problem, the left doors and right doors are not named so i cant programm a stringsearching srcipt wit hautomatically corrects the xStart value of all doors and drawers.

 

I tried to solve it with "xMid" but that result is not correct. I get xMID=100 and the door is 300 ... -> UPDATE now it works with Xmid.

 

 

br KC

 

Hi Kingchaos, 

 

Thanks for your detailed reply. 

It seems you have a very good ERP or software to handle the grain features. 

Unfortunately, my business has only one standard flat bed CNC, not as powerful as yours. 

[kingchaos]

its HPO from the schelling saw